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• July 17, 2022 at 12:55 pm #31809
  Rajka Milanovic Galbraith

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  Grateful for this forum

  Pretty new to peptides: completed the foundations course, weight loss course and almost all of the hormone course.  Just started prescribing them to patients 2 weeks ago.

  I have a 67 year old patient I have taken a very comprehensive approach with x 3. 5 years ago.  She has underlying mycotoxin illness and significant alopecia.  I have resolved her brain fog, gotten about 1/2 the hair to grow back, 10 lbs lost (she is at 153 at 5 foot 8) with my 6 week weight loss program (this is low for what I see average is 20 lbs in 6 weeks) . She has worked on vagus nerve and limbic system.  It took a long time for me to get her to realize the impact of stress, impact of mold and impact of her mindset: Historically was glass 1/2 empty but so much better.   She finally had her mold remediation complete which hinder her progress for sure. Fatigue is resolved when she sleeps.

  Historically she has had insomnia: was 4-5 hours when we first met got her back to 6-7 hours. During the weight loss program we had her go to maintenance quicker as her insomnia resurfaced and made her miserable. She is improving.

  I would like to resolve this insomnia (many things tried, some work for a short while) and support maintenance of this weight loss.

  What would you seasoned practitioners do? I was thinking initially DSIP but then thought maybe start with CJC/ipamorelin first.

  Would you all use dosing in the handout? I did see a post on weight gain (likely water) with CJC/ipa.

  Would also love input on: 1. Consents: what do you all use?  2. How do you logistically train your patients to inject?

  Thanks in advance

  Rajka

  July 17, 2022 at 1:36 pm #31810
  Cynthia Keller

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  Hello-

  From this story, I suspect that the weight issue (and the insomnia) is due to mycotoxins.

  Remember that the body is so smart, and when exposed to more mycotoxins than it can handle, it creates more fat in the body to be able to store these toxins as safely as possible (better to hide those toxins in fat cells than having them move into the fat in the brain).

  This means that:

  a)while she was loosing weight she was freeing and mobilizing these stored mycotoxins. (Making the insomnia worse again)

  and

  b)once her body realized that she wasn’t able to handle safely the toxins that you had mobilized already… it was refusing to lose more weight and mobilizing more.

  So next thoughts on my part:

  -mold toxin binding (however you usually like doing this best… GI detox, Welchol, CSM, etc)

  -address the inflammation in the brain due to the “fire” created there by the mold exposure (TA1, KPV/BPC, TB4, melanotan II).  Side note here… TB4 directly addresses things we follow in CIRS like TGFB, VEGF, etc.  And Melanontan II has MSH effects (also of course, a very important arena of the nasty affects that Mycotoxins have on the brain).

  I would personally think of the above two steps first. And I bet her insomnia would improve (brain could stop being hyper-vigilant) and her weight loss might resume.

  -Cynthia

   

  July 17, 2022 at 5:26 pm #31811
  Rajka Milanovic Galbraith

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  Thanks for the input. She is and has been on a comprehensive binding, Gut and Nasal protocol.

  If she didn’t have mold, What would you do for someone with insomnia and weight issues in regard to peptides? TIA.

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