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CJC-1295+Ipamorelin and Insulin Resistance

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CJC-1295+Ipamorelin and Insulin Resistance

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  • #29460

    Dear SSRP colleagues,

    I have four, 60+ y.o, male patients who were doing very well on testosterone cypionate IM therapy.  Their total T levels were in the 600 range.  CJC-1295+Ipamorelin  0.1 ml (100 mcg) SQ QHS 5 days/week (M-F) was added for anti-aging.

    Lab testing performed about 3 months after initiation of the CJC-1295+Ipamorelin revealed significant insulin resistance, i.e., HOMA-IR ovder 4.0, which did not exist prior to the CJC-1295+Ipamorelin therapy.  Their pre-treatment HOMA-IR values were in the 0.7 to 1.2 range, which is WNL.  They all have healthy diets, good quality supplementation, and regular exercise regimens.

    I am requesting input on the best clinical course of action:

    1. Decrease dosage of CJC-1295+Ipamorelin to 0.05 ml (50 mcg) SQ QHS 5 days/week (M-F)?
    2. Discontinue 0.1 ml (100 mcg) SQ QHS 5 days/week (M-F)?
    3. Add GLP1-RA therapy, i.e. Exenatide 0.05-0.10 ml (5-10 units) QAM?
    4. Add GLP1-RA therapy, i.e. Exenatide 0.05-0.10 ml (5-10 units) BID?

    Thank you for sharing your insights.

    Mitch Fleisher, M.D., D.Ht., D.A.B.F.M.

    #29461
    Leonard Pastrana
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    SSRP Certified

    Dr. Fleisher

    3 months of cjc/ipa is a good time to take a break and rotate anyway.  My vote would be to discontinue the cjc/ipa.

    I would look to start something like MOTS-C due to its effects on insulin sensitivity.

    I would base the GLP dosing on how well it is being tolerated. Start low and slow.

    I would focus on timing and type of exercise to help with glucose uptake. ie focus on resistance training.

    I like using a continuous glucose monitor for 2-4 weeks in this scenario as well. See when we are getting glucose spikes. Use the information to tweak nutrition and exercise for optimal levels.

    #29462

    Leonard,

    I’ve prescribed a trial of CJC+Ipamorelin 0.05 ml SQ QHS (5 days/wk) for a month, as well as Exenatide 1.0 ml SQ QAM, and MOTS-c 10 mg SQ Q1week for 4 weeks, and then will recheck fasting lab work. 

    Thus far, the Exenatide has been well tolerated.

    We’ll see what happens.

    Dr. Fleisher

    #29463
    Khanh Nguyen, MD
    Member
    SSRP Certified

    where do you get exenatide?

    #29464

    From Pure Pharmacy

    #29465
    Arash Esmaili
    Member
    SSRP Certified

    Dr. Fleisher, any updates on these four patients with insulin resistance?

    #29466

    Yes, they’re doing well now with a regimen of CJC+Ipam. cycllng 3 months on and 1 month off, and Gly-Control 2-3 capsules BID (from PGL, 800-527-9512, order #7876).

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