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larazotide

larazotide

Lynn Wagner May 1, 2023 at 8:01 pm

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  • #32563
    Lynn Wagner
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    I have a 4 yr old with asthma, eczema, allergies – GI Effects stool test shows bacterial overgrowth of Citrobacter, Klebsiella and Pseudomonas. I’m curious to see if Dr. Kellers protocol that includes larazotide, lactulose and alinia would be recommended and also if there is a peds dosing for alinia.

    #32564
    Cynthia Keller
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    Hello Lynn-

     

    First off, you already took the time (and spent the money) to find out WHAT needs treating in this patient (with the GI Effects test).  I know that when they tested for those bacteria they found in him/her (Citrobacter, Klebsiella, and Pseudomonas), that they also gave you both natural and Rx options to treat these with (that they would be sensitive to).

    So, since you have such specific info about how to help him/her… there isn’t a need to do a more general “tune up” with something like Alinia (which I use more for when I haven’t tested).

    About the dosing for Alinia in a child this age (if you were going to use it in someone else when you didn’t know what needed “weeding out”), there are doses for it in epocrates down to 1 y/o (for infectious diarrhea)… I would just use these standard doses.  *

    *For reference these read as 100mg BID for age 1-3, and 200mg BID for ages 4-11 for example.

    As for larazotide… if there are signs of  weakened tight-junctions in history, on exam, or in this case in the results… then I LOVE larazotide.

    And for lactulose, “why not”?  In general feeding happy bacteria in the gut isn’t a bad idea….. But, having said that, in this case, if you have results that shows a lot of overgrowth of some questionable bacteria, then I would wait to start something like a prebiotic of any kind until you have gotten control of the overgrowth (so that you do not risk “feeding” these as well).  Just in case.  This is a more nuanced timing kind of thing.

     

    So in short to summarize again….

    Alinia: I would use what you now know would be ideal for this patient since you did the testing.

    Larazotide: worth the money IF signs, symptoms, results consistent with weak tight junctions

    Lactulose: I would hold off starting this (or any pre-biotic type item) until you were in the restorative phase.  But then, a good an inexpensive way to support someone’s wanted microbiome.

     

    Hope this helps!

    Warmly,

    Cynthia

    #32565
    Cynthia Keller
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    Sorry…

    re-read your clinical story…

    eczema, allergies and asthma… so you DO already have indications for trouble with tight junctions…

    …so absolutely I recommend larazotide.
    Also, as you kill off any unwanted bacteria, it will be great to have tight junctions closed for less absorption of LPS and other toxins as you get any die-off.

     

    cynthia

    #32566
    Clyde Boswell
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    I agree with Dr. Keller.

    I always take into account how much citrobacter/pseudomonas there is present and the extent of symptoms. If highly symptomatic I have no issues using antibiotics in children this age if appropriate. Pseudomonas is a pain to treat as it becomes highly resistant with formation of efflux pumps and biofilm formation. One consideration if using antibiotics, ciprofloxacin is one of the only agents with high degree of efficacy in treating pseudomonas (it is why they use it extensively in pediatric cystic fibrosis both inhaled and IV in the hospital). Agents like biocidin could be considered, especially in pediatric populations.

    #32567
    Cynthia Keller
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    Having said that about the cipro being helpful in tough infections ….

    I really pretty never choose fluoroquinolones for children.  In fact, I cannot ever ever remember writing for one.

    The tendon injury/rupture risk is real, as are all the other “bad things” we have all seen with fluoroquinolones.  And so personally for something non-life threatening like in this 4 y/o, I would 100% choose something else.

     

    And I agree with you Clyde, Biocidin is one of my all-time very favorite supplements!  It works great.  Not expensive.  Nothing risky.

     

    Cynthia

     

    #32568
    Lynn Wagner
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    Thank you so much for your insight and input! Much appreciated.

    #40599
    Maggie Peklo
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    Dr. Keller @andkeller2gmail-com – Do you find that Alinia will cover yeast/candida? or moreso just bacteria, viruses, parasites/protazoa?

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