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Pentosan Polylsulfate and Factor V Leiden

Aaron Hartman August 1, 2021 at 7:24 am

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  • #30918
    Aaron Hartman
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    I have a patient with severe DJD in her hands. She is the typical slender, active, post-menopausal female who over the last 3 years has gotten moderate/severe finger DJD. I was considering using Pentosan but the patients is asking about bleeding/clotting. She is heteozygous Factor V and hasn’t had any issues with it to date. Would this product be safe?

    Thanks

    Aaron

    #30919
    Kristelle Reyes
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    Hello @drkriswyahoo-com and @cpaigepaigemd-com, would love to have your inputs here. Thank you! 🙂

    #30920
    Robin Rose
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    Aaron,
    I cannot answer your query, but I have my own. Resonates with yours.  I have always been pentosan-hesitant in my practice – long term issues not too pretty.  All of a sudden, heres this stuff again, coming from a non-conventional arena.  What I do not understand, perhaps you can explain it, why would using this in this context be different than the liability-laden toxic-annoyance situations like IC? How does it alla sudden get safe?  Real query: discomfort arises every time it comes up. Can you or someone else address this?

    THANKS!!

    #30921
    Aaron Hartman
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    Robin,

    Could you clarify what you mean? Before coming into SSRP I had only used Elmiron for IC. Now I’m looking into SC for OA and other indications. What kinds of complications and issues have you had with its use and via what modes of administration?

    Thanks

    Aaron

    #30922
    Robb Bird
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    I have used it off and on without any complications other that the uncomfortableness of the injection itself. I have had positive outcomes in 90% of my patients (other 10% didn’t notice improvement). I am homozygous Factor V and use PPS about every 6 months on myself for facet arthritis. I personally have not had any issues, all positive for me.

    #30923
    Aaron Hartman
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    Thanks or that input

    #30924
    Robin Rose
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    @Aaron Hartman
    as you say: I’ve only seen this for IC, and dosed chronically, which is what I suspect is the charm using it in this consideration and route of application. I wanted reassurance that these smaller SQ doses are short term- I’m still weeding these substances into my known structures, and this one keeps rising to be answered better for my peace of mind: the gut stuff. Skin stuff, dizzy , mostly people do not like it. Can you take this a little further for an evolving peptide thinker. Thank you!

    #30925
    Madison Lepore
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    Factor V Heterozygous

    This mutation is consistent with an increase in thrombosis meaning the problem with this is an increase in clotting.

     

    Pentosan Polysulfate (PPS)

    It is important to note that pentosan and polysulfate WITH heparin share a high degree of sulfonation. The compound pentosan polysulfate (PPS) is low in anticoagulant activity BUT it does share some of the properties of heparin. With respect to this patient this could be of benefit as it is a low-grade anticoagulant.

     

    The typical dose when using Pentosan to treat arthritis is 0.5mL sub q once/week, sometimes twice/week for the first 6 weeks. After the first 6 weeks you can potentially space it out to once/month. This is a very low dose meaning even if the patient is already on an anticoagulant for Factor V Heterozygous mutation this should not affect the anticoagulant therapy. You should have a lot of leeway in absolutely utilizing something like this for this particular patient. ALSO, if the patient is not on any anticoagulants this has beneficial features of the low anticoagulant activity.

     

    Pentosan polysulfate has other beneficial properties that can be of importance. PPS regulates systemic iron availability and has significant properties in reducing a Hepcidin (a peptide hormone produced by the liver). A hepcidin dysregulation can cause disorders both with iron overload (i.e. Iron Refractory Iron Deficient Anemia) and iron deficiency (i.e. Anemia of chronic disease (ACD) or Anemia of inflammation (AI).

    The two pathways known for hepcidin expression are:

    -BMP/SMAD signaling pathway (iron-mediated)

    -Inflammatory cytokine IL-6 and JAK/STAT3

     

    Attached is an article discussing how Pentosan polysulfate can be used to control hepcidin. Asperti, Michela, Andrea Denardo, Magdalena Gryzik, Annalisa Castagna, Domenico Girelli, Annamaria Naggi, Paolo Arosio, and Maura Poli. “Pentosan Polysulfate to Control Hepcidin Expression in Vitro and in Vivo.” Biochemical Pharmacology 175 (May 2020): 113867. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.bcp.2020.113867.

     

    #30926
    William Seeds, MD
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    @hartmanangmail-com please see the reply from @madisonseeds-md Dr. Seeds’ NP!

    #30927
    Kristelle Reyes
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