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Anti-Fibrotic peptides/supplements

Bruce Sloane November 27, 2024 at 6:59 am

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  • #33541
    Bruce Sloane
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    I have a patient who now has penile (corporal) fibrosis after priapism. Are there any available peptides/supplements to help with this?

    Thank you!

    #33542

    You can give a several month trial of Guttides (BPC-157 + KPV) 1-2 capsules BID.

    If something more is needed, try Thymosin Beta-4 SQ injections at the base of the penis.  Use local anesthesia with topical lidocaine beforehand.

    Enzymes can also be helpful, e.g., Inflamase 3-4 capsules TID/QID (PGL, 800-527-9512, order #7876), Serrapeptase, Lumbrokinase, etc.

    MSM 3-6 grams daily may also be helpful.

    Best, DrM

    #33543
    Bruce Sloane
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    Thank you! Can you get TB-4 these days?

    #33544

    These days, the sources are Peptides Sciences and Quantum Peptides.

    #33545
    Anthony Castore
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    I’m sorry to hear about your patient’s situation. Corporal fibrosis after priapism can be tough to manage, but there are a few approaches that might help. Peptides like the Caveolin-1 scaffolding domain (CSD) peptide have shown promise in reducing fibrosis in preclinical studies. It works by blocking the TGF-β1/Smad pathway, which is a key driver of fibrosis. While it’s still experimental, it’s worth keeping an eye on as a potential option in the future.

    Supplements can also play a role in managing fibrosis. TUDCA (tauroursodeoxycholic acid) is a bile acid with strong anti-inflammatory and anti-fibrotic properties. It can help reduce cellular stress and slow fibrosis by targeting pathways like ER stress and apoptosis. Pentoxifylline, which is often used in conditions like Peyronie’s disease, can improve blood flow and reduce collagen buildup, making it another good option. Adding antioxidants like vitamin E and omega-3 fatty acids can further help by reducing inflammation and oxidative stress. L-arginine may also be beneficial, as it supports nitric oxide production, which can improve blood flow and tissue health.

    There are other tools to consider, like Collagenase Clostridium Histolyticum (Xiaflex), which is approved for Peyronie’s disease and works by breaking down collagen deposits. Using a vacuum erection device (VED) regularly can enhance blood flow and help prevent further fibrosis, and penile traction therapy might help remodel the fibrotic tissue over time.

    This is definitely a complex case, and it might involve a combination of inflammation, oxidative stress, and dysregulated repair mechanisms. A personalized approach that targets multiple pathways—like using TUDCA to address inflammation and cellular stress alongside Pentoxifylline to improve blood flow—could create a stronger overall effect. Consulting with a urologist who specializes in this area would be a great next step. While it’s a challenging condition, these strategies offer hope for improving outcomes.

    #33546
    Kristelle Reyes
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    Hello @bsloanephilaurology-com,

    Here’s a video response from Dr. Seeds’ December Office Hours at 01:05. Please watch by clicking the link below:

    https://ssrpinstitute.org/ssrp-members-videos/

    Thank you! ?

    #33547
    Craig Mullen
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    NAC will help reduce TGF-B1 to decrease fibrosis; 750 mg daily, and who doesn’t love supporting glutathione in the body?

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19393328/

    https://journal-inflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1476-9255-3-7?

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7661481_N-Acetyl-L-cysteine_suppresses_TGF-b_signaling_at_distinct_molecular_steps_The_biochemical_and_biological_efficacy_of_a_multifunctional_antifibrotic_drug

    Curcumin phytosome/or with piperine for the same reasons – down regulation of pro-fibrotic elements

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20160437/

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0120045&utm  This one is interesting because it directly involves reproductive tissue (cervical cancer cells)

    Systemic enzymes serrapeptase and nattokinase as mentioned above.

    Bromelain, increases IL-6, an all-too unpleasant culprit in chronic inflammation and fibrosis. However studies suggest bromelain-mediated IL-6 up regulation reduces myofibroblast differentiation, a factor involved in limiting fibrosis. It may also help to shift IL-6 away from chronic inflammatory pathways in favor of acute regenerative pathways. Other cytokines downregulated by bromelain are your repeat offenders – TNFa, IL1B.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23771413/

    #33553
    tim blend
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    Has anyone tried TUDCA intralesional for peyronies or any other product. I have used hyaluronidase (cheaper than Xiaflex) at minute doses very carefully with some success. Also currently trying verapamil with NS and the use of  Storz Duolith SD-1.

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